Comments on: 14 July 2008: Vive Le Tour // Civilised Streets http://thebikeshow.net/14-july-2008-vive-le-tour-london-street-design/ Podcast, programme notes and audio archives from Resonance FM's bicycle radio show. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:05:05 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Martin Cassini http://thebikeshow.net/14-july-2008-vive-le-tour-london-street-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3178 Martin Cassini Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:48:19 +0000 http://thebikeshow.net/?p=201#comment-3178 Panglossian - great word! But enforce courtesy? Nonsense. It arises spontaneously when people are free of artificial priority rules and free to use commonsense to negotiate movement. Panglossian – great word! But enforce courtesy? Nonsense. It arises spontaneously when people are free of artificial priority rules and free to use commonsense to negotiate movement.

]]> By: Simon Boddy http://thebikeshow.net/14-july-2008-vive-le-tour-london-street-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3061 Simon Boddy Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:35:51 +0000 http://thebikeshow.net/?p=201#comment-3061 Hiya Jack, Civilised streets is very obviously a lovely idea. Listening to you raise your voices over the noise of the traffic, and particularly the motorbikes, gave the lie. This civilised crowd seem to think they can wish away the overwhelming power imbalance conferred by horsepower, a metal carapace, airbags, tinted windows etc. They're equally panglossian about the goodwill of drivers. Without a matching commitment to reduce (halve) traffic volumes (like Paris) and enforce courteousness, we're going to repeat the mistake of seeking an engineering solution to a behavioural problem. Hiya Jack,
Civilised streets is very obviously a lovely idea. Listening to you raise your voices over the noise of the traffic, and particularly the motorbikes, gave the lie. This civilised crowd seem to think they can wish away the overwhelming power imbalance conferred by horsepower, a metal carapace, airbags, tinted windows etc. They’re equally panglossian about the goodwill of drivers. Without a matching commitment to reduce (halve) traffic volumes (like Paris) and enforce courteousness, we’re going to repeat the mistake of seeking an engineering solution to a behavioural problem.

]]> By: Adam http://thebikeshow.net/14-july-2008-vive-le-tour-london-street-design/comment-page-1/#comment-2899 Adam Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:31:49 +0000 http://thebikeshow.net/?p=201#comment-2899 Jack, I think that the Duke of York pub in Clerkenwell—top courier hang-out—shows Le Tour on a TV. Jack,

I think that the Duke of York pub in Clerkenwell—top courier hang-out—shows Le Tour on a TV.

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