Comments on: We’re all Aristoteleans now http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/ Podcast and blog of the world's most popular bicycling radio show, rolling since 2004 Tue, 22 May 2012 03:16:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jack http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/comment-page-1/#comment-4549 Jack Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:09:59 +0000 http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/#comment-4549 @ Rob, I see cyclists as flexible shape-shifters, able to transcend the distinctions between walker and motorised vehicle. We can reach overtake cars descending the Ventoux but also ride carefully and considerately along a canal towpath, mixing easily with walkers. The laws should reflect the miracle of the bicycle. @ Kim, you present more evidence - if it is needed - of what Buffalo Bill once said on the show: everyone hates cyclists but no-one hates cyclists more than cyclists. And on St Valentine's Day to boot! @ Rob, I see cyclists as flexible shape-shifters, able to transcend the distinctions between walker and motorised vehicle. We can reach overtake cars descending the Ventoux but also ride carefully and considerately along a canal towpath, mixing easily with walkers. The laws should reflect the miracle of the bicycle.

@ Kim, you present more evidence – if it is needed – of what Buffalo Bill once said on the show: everyone hates cyclists but no-one hates cyclists more than cyclists. And on St Valentine’s Day to boot!

]]> By: Kim http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/comment-page-1/#comment-4546 Kim Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:10:33 +0000 http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/#comment-4546 Interestingly enough <a href="http://www.bikebiz.com/news/31761/Red-light-running-cyclists-blastedby-cyclists" rel="nofollow">most cyclist don't like other cyclist jumping red lights either</a>. A quick search of a few cycling forums soon backs up this finding, as regular cyclist want cycling to be accepted as a legitimate form of transport by wider society, rather than just that of an urban sub group. Interestingly enough most cyclist don’t like other cyclist jumping red lights either. A quick search of a few cycling forums soon backs up this finding, as regular cyclist want cycling to be accepted as a legitimate form of transport by wider society, rather than just that of an urban sub group.

]]> By: Rob http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/comment-page-1/#comment-4540 Rob Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:40:01 +0000 http://thebikeshow.net/were-all-aristoteleans-now/#comment-4540 Not sure if Warburton has accurately stated your position, Jack, but I fear that by accepting a self-definition of "quasi-pedestrians" cyclists are one step away from being banned from the road at the whim of Highways officers. Surely that's too high a price for the privilege of shooting red lights. Not wishing to claim moral superiority, but I do stop on red. However I feel a dreadful label of 'uncool' descend on me whenever I do so in London. Is it simply that we want to maintain momentum, or would more cyclists stop if they dared to be different? Not sure if Warburton has accurately stated your position, Jack, but I fear that by accepting a self-definition of “quasi-pedestrians” cyclists are one step away from being banned from the road at the whim of Highways officers. Surely that’s too high a price for the privilege of shooting red lights.

Not wishing to claim moral superiority, but I do stop on red. However I feel a dreadful label of ‘uncool’ descend on me whenever I do so in London. Is it simply that we want to maintain momentum, or would more cyclists stop if they dared to be different?

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